Hello HPer's! I have a question! I have a 3 year old Paint Stallion his names Serrano He has a problem with tucking his nose into my stirrup and not turning in the direction I would like him to go in while I am in the saddle, He just stands there and refuses to turn :/.  I have not had this problem with a Horse before. He's green VERY green to the Bridle and Bit and I would love to know how to correct this problem if Any of you lovely peoples have ANY suggestions or tips I would Greatly Appreciate it! 

Thank you! 

I have no idea on that front, but I will bump it up to the threads for you ^^

Hame only will do that if i'm asking him to do something he doesn't want to do.. and he goes "noooooo!" and chucks a stropp haha 

Thanks Kirre! It's much appreciated! :D

If I'm picturing this correctly, he doesn't want to move forward into the bit?  Are you pulling the rein to turn and he is taking advantage of it by just turing his head around?  It's hard not seeing the situation in action, but I am thinking some long-lining might be helpful so you can push him forward from the ground.  Try to do your best not to touch his face with the bit as he goes, and just soft small pulls to turn.  Under saddle, use the leg on the oppisite side he is tucking his nose into.  instead of pulling your hand back to turn, try moving it out away from his should, no pressure on his face and push with the outside leg.  If you are able to get a video, I might have better advice.  Hope this is somewhat helpful!

I'm with feral!  More clarification would me nice just to know for sure what he is doing so we can properly give advice! ☺

when I am in the saddle on his back and I gently turn him I use my pinky to apply more pressure to the rein on the side I would like him to turn in and I do a outward round motion to turn him I don't pull backwards towards me and then out to turn him as this is confusing to some horses. When I turn him gently to either side he sometimes does what I say but here lately he's been refusing to turn (I don't want him to go forward just turn right and left) and tucks his nose behind his shoulder kinda under my Stirrup. :/ He almost falls over sideways on the opposite side of the side I want him to turn in when he does this. I have been doing a lot of ground work with him and he does fine but when I am in his saddle on his back he tucks his nose and refuses to turn. :/

Thank you Feral!!

Gotcha!

Did you start him on a bit or did you start him with a bitless bridle (hackamore, bosal, etc)?  I've always started my babies off with just getting them used to the pressure before using it bit.  It generally made them softer mouthed and more responding to slight pressure.  I also preferred to keep a rope around their neck to begin neck reining at a young age (english or western).  For me it was all about them feeling my weight shift and pressure as they moved away from my outside leg(like feral suggested), and the pressure from the neck rein/hackamore.  Personally, if you started directly on bit I would suggest taking a step back and getting him used to a bitless one first!  That's always seemed to work wonders for me. ☺

Ok, I think I understand.  A turn on the haunches is what you want?

I would focus on more leg pressure to signal that his shoulders go right or left with the rein aid.  If you are only putting pressure on his neck, he might be thinking to just move his neck away.  When you think about it, the horse doesn't go where the head goes, they go where the shoulders go. (my uncle taught me that with his story of trail riding a horse that wouldn't turn and would just go forward with his head turned right into his side, because the shoulders were still pointed forward, hehe!)

And I know for my horse, doing this in the walk as a warm up was helpful to understand doing it at a halt.  Using corners to ask them to slow and turn their shoulders around, or riding a square, and eventually she understood it to do it from a standstill.  One of the thing I would with my horse would be to ride shoulder-fore position on a circle as you slowly spiral the circle in, asking the circle to be smaller by moving the shoulders in until I was riding a turn on the haunches.

Good luck with your training!! :D

Thanks Guys! This was really helpful. Unfortuneatly I cannot Continue my Training until this 5 inches of snow I got this past weekend clears up as I don't have the luxury of a indoor arena :( but I have gotten Serrano to turn better but he still tucks his nose. :/ I am going to take you guy's advice and try him on a hackamore bit and see if he does better. A Friend of mine raises and trains Horses shes getting real old but she suggested I use a split bit or a Hackamore to train him with. Serrano has a tough mouth and he still has his testicles lol so he's real hard headed. He is also Barn sour and when he sees his owner he takes no notice of me at all. :/ But I will break him of that by going out to see him and ride him this summer while his owner is at work. :) Again Thank you guys! if I have anymore problems I will let ya'll know. ♥