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Equ » Autumn is in the air🍁
July 19th, 2015 9:39:47pm
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Many of you may {or may not} know, for a time I've raised & shown goats; so I built their pedigrees. As many breeders know that pedigrees go by what performance we want in an animal. This can be for Thoroughbreds the most wins at races or for reiners the highest points/cash earned during their career or certain imports are brought in for a confirmation nessecity.


I have seen in many Quarter Horse, Arabian & Thoroughbred pedigrees breedings of great gandsires or granddams and occasionally, even half-sisters/brothers or step-sisters/brothers. Now, I am well aware in real life that inbreeding is a big big no because it endangers the health of the foal, but does this count as inbreeding?


Secondly, while HP has unlimited uses of store lines - would it be allowed to be done in breeds based on realism? While I would never do this with my lines, I'm curious what HP breeders {RL and on HP} think. I'm curious...




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Insomnia • [34] ⸸ Spare
July 19th, 2015 9:59:29pm
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In my opinion it would be inbreeding if they had one of the same parents, grandparents, or further on down the line, but others might think different. If that makes sense?




 

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July 19th, 2015 11:03:21pm
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In HP there is not shortage of store animals to buy, so there is no NEED to inbreed.  So Im a big fat no.  Since lineages on here are point based, inbreeding is not the same, since we arent looking to have heads shaped a certain way, etc.  I wouldn't buy an inbred animal.

 

Inbreeding is actually stupidly common in pedigrees of Thoroughbreds and Quarter Horses.  I mean, most horses have foundation sires more than once - grandsires overlap, etc.  Personally, IRL, theres a distance of shared blood before I view it wrong.  Siblings?  No.  Shared great grandsires is not, howver, the end of the world.




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𝔖𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔪 ℭ𝔯𝔬𝔴 💀 The Artist Formerly Known as xxCHAOTIC
July 21st, 2015 2:00:00pm
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I've seen an article about someone that did like the genetics and the math on what constitutes LINEBREEDING vs. INBREEDING. Shared blood that many generations back (or across, like cousins) is generally fine and can be essential to breed for certain traits and genes. Many breeds have either ONE or VERY FEW founding bloodlines, such as the TB and Morgan. Others have just so freaking small genepools that it's inescapable if you have a closed studbook (*cough*friesians*cough*). Inbreeding within very close generations however is uh.... you better have a good reason for it.

 

On HP. Dude that's what we have store animals for. HP also automatically blocks inbreeding I think 3 generations in.




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Maharet : Taking a break : BV, Blitz, & Trig watching
July 21st, 2015 7:37:55pm
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i wouldnt touch anything that has lines i have. i see no point. and i do have a gen 12/13 or 14 not really sure but i pretty much know my lines that i have and generally dont buy anything with more then 4 gens in it now...




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