Why aren't player point animals allowed? Isn't that the point of having geldings in a game?

Player point animals are not against the rules on HP. You can see all of our rules here: http://horsephenomena.com/rules.php

Hope that helps :).

They used to be - what changed? /curious

What is a player point animal? -dumb question-

I was actually wondering the same thing. lol

yeah what exactly is a pp animal? I do vaguely remember some rule saying they were not allowed at one point a while ago..

I would assume part of the reason that they were previously not allowed (as I do remember this) would simply be that they take up a lot of space file wise? At least if everyone had just a bunch of PP animals for themselves. However I would also assume that as the game has grown, Sam has done a lot to expand on what we can have so that we can all fully enjoy the game and for a lot of people that enjoyment also means getting as many player points as you possibly can. As long as you retire them when they're done, and they don't have any offspring, they should be removed from the game which will then help with space. 

I honestly have 0 idea, that's just what makes sense to me?

 Honestly player pts currently serve no real purpose so why need player pt animals?!

If you train a bunch and name them its basically the same thing...isnt it? Training is training

Pretty much. I have a ton of paints right now sitting on my retirement that are named, fully trained, and someone might mistake them for a PP animal BECAUSE I deleted their foals because of my hiatus. Granted, I'm doing retirement breedings but for all intents and purposes, right now they're just PP animals.

They were banned at one point because there was people buying and training hundreds of store animals at a time purely to boost their player points. I don't know about how much server space they were taking up but they were flooding the ever loving crap out of shows and making it really difficult for serious players with actual lines to get decent points from a night of shows.

Basically it was unfair for people to train hundreds of animals with no intention of keeping them or breeding them to create lines for themselves while taking points away from people who ARE aiming for that. I think at the time the decision to ban PP animals was made there was only a handful of people doing it. But that's what the problem was - there might have only been 3 or 4 people doing it but they were training up to and sometimes over 100 animals a night each, and when you're putting up to 400-500 animals in a show you can see why people were getting crap points and getting really annoyed about it.

Yeah that’s pretty nuts, and also pretty rude for the people with lines not just seeking points. 

Player point animals are animals that are trained purely for player point gain and not to actually breed/continue lines with.

At one time they were banned, for reasons that Shae and Siib mentioned (they flood shows which is frustrating for everyone because we don't have the server power to handle doubling, tripiling, or even quadrupiling our autshows and not enough players to make the needed amount of shows), and they are also a drag on server space. But they haven't been banned for a few years. Our sever is bigger, and it's much less of an issue these days than it was in the early days of HP, and we've done a lot of rule consolidation over time to get rid of rules that we don't really need anymore.

Oh I didn't even know they weren't banned anymore. I usually start new breeds and can't figure out what to name them so they sit as "Store Horse" for quite a while and I always worry I'll get in trouble for them being pps lol! 

Lol Sangre! 

I'll admit I also didn't notice when this rule was removed, but I'm not one who likes PP animals anyways. TBH I just have my massive hoard of Paint horses in sections 1 through 8 and pray I can keep up with training. ;) 

Okay, cool. Thank you everyone for your answers! I've been playing on and off for a while and it's sometimes hard to keep up when I don't play regularly. On a different site just like this one i used to breed each pair twice. If i got a mare, I'd breed make her part of the next breeding pair since the mares passed down a greater portion of points and if I got a stallion that didn't sell by the time he was an adult, I'd geld him and train him until retirement (on that game geldings got boosted points from shows).  But I was always afraid I'd get in trouble for having a player point animal if I did things that way though. Thanks again!