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Babies Points
 Perfect Stride December 26th, 2012 8:16:40pm 4 Posts |
I think the points babies get should be more based on their parents' points. It seems that theres not that much of a difference, and I think the baby should reflect the effort put into the parents. It would also increase the actual value of the animals (I've noticed theres not a huge market for the animals themselves) and a way to progress with your lines (instead of them all being around the same amount of points, even with multiple generations in between).
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 tautourahrahrah || So leave yourself intact 'Cause I won't be coming back || December 27th, 2012 1:44:58am 43 Posts |
the points are like .04 x .03 of mom and dads points.. something along those lines |
 Farewell's Paint Horses {I'm getting there} December 27th, 2012 2:02:39am 1,033 Posts |
The babies points are based off the parents. I use this to get a rough estimate of what kind of points to expect. fathers points + mothers points / 28.675406 = rough estimate of off spring pointage |
 Famous Shamus }} from blood and ash, we will rise December 28th, 2012 3:43:54am 276 Posts |
I agree that the babies don't seem to get enough...For example, my Samoyeds and Bull Terriers all had 1.8-2mil points at breeding and not one of the pups even got 150k points...It's almost like your effort into the parents doesn't really show in the offspring...it really doesn't put them THAT far ahead, unless your on generation 15 or something...    |
 shaenne • December 30th, 2012 1:24:09am 1,386 Posts |
I don't know about anyone else but my babies get plenty... I've never really paid that much attention to my babies points because i've always been happy with it.If I was to breed my two (just under) 2mill pointed store dogs today, the baby would be born with 138k, which in my opnion is a lot for a baby to be born with. |
 `NEKE-A-SAURUS → up in smoke December 30th, 2012 1:54:00am 12,807 Posts |
I agree with Shaenne. The point isn't to have babies born with high high points - if they were born with millions it'd be too much. :/  |
 uni December 30th, 2012 3:32:44am 1,338 Posts |
I've always considered that being born with around 70k points is average (if both the parents have 1 mil points when bred, that is what you would get) and anything above that is bonus. My babies are usually born well above that, so I'm happy :POne thing I do wish happened would be that as you train more generations, that should affect your baby's points a bit.. so two lined horses would have a better baby points-wise than a pair of stores. That might be too complicated to implement though.Also, I definitely think the effect of mother and father's points should be equal, currently it seems that the mother contributes more points (which sucks if your project horse/dog is male :P) |
shaenne • December 30th, 2012 4:58:23am 1,386 Posts |
^ I do agree that it would be better if mum & dad's contributions were equal. Most of the projects I do are male so I kind of draw the short straw there LOL. |
Perfect Stride }} Shires December 30th, 2012 4:01:35pm 1 Posts |
To Uni- that's what I mean though, you are just constantly training to 1-2 mill since all babies are born with so little, if they were born with better points, as you go through generations, they will be better and better, not stuck in the same circle |
shaenne • December 30th, 2012 11:13:37pm 1,386 Posts |
I don't train to 1-2mill because of the amount the babies are born with.. I train to 1-2mill because 1mill is the standard and 2mill is a nice personal achievement. If I train to a higher goal it's because I want to. If someone doesn't make the 1mill goal it's because I didn't train regularly enough. None of my dogs final points have anything to do with what they were born with. Having several generations of 1-2mill dogs is kind of what I strive for... I'm not really sure how that's being 'stuck in the same circle'. |
Famous Shamus }} from blood and ash, we will rise January 3rd, 2013 12:03:26am 276 Posts |
Shaenne, I think what she means is that, even when you're on a high generation (i.e. 5th, 6th, 7th...) those babies aren't that much ahead in points to a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc generation baby. What I think she means is that the time you put into the parents should show more in the babies (they get more points), that way your generations will continually be giving you better and better animals with higher points so that you're not always between 1-2mil. Does that make sense? lol. Stride--correct me if I'm wrong; that's just what I got out of it =p |
  Samantha - see page to know who to contact directly!January 3rd, 2013 12:52:10am 4,333 Posts |
While we all know that HP is not a realistic game, I kind of relate parent's points to a real life situation which was what I had in mind when I originally planned the breeding on HP. Depending on the parents of a real life foal the foal will get certain desirable traits, however, you must work just as hard with the foal to train it as you had to with the parents because it is indeed a different horse and those skill just don't get passed down.The points of an animal on HP kind of represent what their training and showing accomplishments would be in real life, if that makes sense. So you get a little bit from the parents and then the rest has to be worked for like you had to with the parents. If that makes sense.Really, in real life the only time a horse's lines "matter" are 1. if you're trying to perfect breeding stock for confirmation, colors, temperaments, etc. (which basically doesn't exist on HP) or 2. if you're planning to get the horse registered, in which case, it's just a showing of the horses "worth" as a lined animal. But their training (or "points") are no good if you don't work with the animal. But if you're not trying to accomplish those things, you can still have a wonderful animal that wasn't bred for any specific trait and not even have any idea who it's parents are. Does that make sense?Also, yes, mare's points are worth more to a foal than a stallion's points. This is to give the mares some kind of value on the game. On lots of games, the stallions are the only ones that people make into project animals and train up to high points and stuff so they can sell the breedings, etc. With mares being worth slightly more point-wise to their foals - it gives them a way to compete as well. |
shaenne • January 3rd, 2013 1:13:41am 1,386 Posts |
I know what you guys mean, FS, I guess I just don't really relate. I'm on my 10th generation Lab and the babies points haven't even really crossed my mind |
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